"Did They Really Say That?" More Favorite Family Business Moments (2024 Rewind)

Allen Paul:
Hello there and welcome to another edition of the family business with the Alessis. Actually, the first one of 2025. My name is Alan. If you recognize my voice but haven't seen me, I'm one of the producers that works with the family business with the Alessis along with Ashley and John, and Johnny, and a lot of other people that you don't get a chance to see. But as we are getting ready to kick off this new year, we thought it might be fun for you to hear some of the best clips of 2024 as we get ready for 2025. This is what we would call our staff picks or our favorites that maybe the lessees aren't as fond of or maybe don't remember as well, but we thought that you would like them. So here's our best of edition of 2024 of the family business with the Alessis.

Mary Alessi:
When I was a teenager, teenagers were so different. Middle schoolers were so different. Yeah. We were still outside goofing around. I remember even when y'all were teenagers, when Chris would come home at 15, I mean, I would make him take 2 showers. Yeah. You know, because he was outside all the time running around and just like, you're gross. Go clean up.

Mary Alessi:
And you girls followed your older brother. You know, we weren't we weren't dealing with the pressures of social media and the perfection pursuit. You girls, I would have to say, go wash your hair. It's true. And there's something about that now that I slightly miss because you see in the culture so many pressures on our next generation Yeah. To look like something and to sound like something and to come across, and they're losing the innocence of their youth. And and I'm not talking about just from a sexual perspective. No.

Mary Alessi:
I'm talking about being a teenager and a middle schooler. And if you're a little chubby, it's okay. And if you There's

Gaby Alessi:
not a

Mary Alessi:
care in the world. There's not a care in the world. And what they're doing with these trends is placing in the hearts of these 10 year olds who aren't ready for it cares. Yeah. And desires and needs and that just leads to insecurity so young. No wonder all we hear about is mental health, mental health, mental health. That's true. No wonder that's feeding it.

Mary Alessi:
There should be, in my opinion, I'm just going to say it, I personally feel like you have to be at least 13 to own a phone. Yeah. I mean, if it were up to me, it would be 16 just like driving. Maybe we'll get there one day. What has to happen though in the process, there will be a lost generation.

Gaby Alessi:
There will be.

Mary Alessi:
We'll look back and say we lost that whole generation. Yeah. There's so much mental health crisis issues. We're there. Yeah. We are there.

Gaby Alessi:
Well, and then you're also gonna see a lot of, self absorbed people in this next generation Oh. Because everything's going to be, how do I look? How am I seeing? How We see it. You yeah. You already notice it with young people today.

Mary Alessi:
100%. We're seeing that play out. It's like the handicapping of a generation. Yeah. And it sounds good to be on your phone. I'll give you an example. A few weeks ago, I really worked at I'm not looking at my phone. Mhmm.

Mary Alessi:
I put my ringer on, and I said, if anybody needs me, they can call me. Yeah. I'm not answering my text. I turn all my notifications off. So nothing came to my home screen. Mhmm. Nothing. I noticed by doing that, my screen time was literally, like, 2 hours a day, which is low.

Mary Alessi:
It's very low. When you check emails on it, and I would my family, as much as we all text and work and all the things that I was doing, I was like, I feel so good. I could literally measure my mood. I felt so phenomenal. And at the moment, I didn't quite link it to that, but I just was proud of myself for having no screen time. Part of it, though, was I turned off those notifications and it did it on its own. So if I needed to check my text, I'd have to sit down and go, has anyone texted me? Because I noticed with my notifications, whatever it was, Apple News, I would click on it. And before I knew it, I was automatically on Instagram.

Mary Alessi:
And I'm like, how did I get you? Okay. Because it's a habit. Turning those off made that happen. Well, last week, I for whatever reason, I turned those notifications back on. We were doing something and I didn't wanna miss getting notifications, so I turned it back on. Saturday of last week, I was feeling not myself. I was feeling really down, and I thought, oh, is it my hormones? I don't feel good. I'm moody.

Mary Alessi:
And I was having very dark thoughts that I don't normally have. And I know what triggered it. I had read something about children on social media, and it so burdened my heart and I could not shake it. And I would go to sleep at night worried about the plight of children and babies having dark thoughts, waking up having dark thoughts, worried about children and babies. And I can normally throw that off and I, you know, okay, God, what do I do? And I start praying. I my screensaver I mean, sorry. My screen time popped up to let me know what my screen time was. Gabby, I was embarrassed Wow.

Mary Alessi:
To see how much time Yeah. I had been on my phone. Yeah. And it was because I'd spent a lot of time reading. Yep. Yes. I had had a lot lot of work to do, but I wasn't going to my iPad or my laptop. I was just on my phone.

Mary Alessi:
And it's very different when you're on your iPad or laptop. You you just, you know, in an adult world, your kids don't have iPads and laptops. They're not checking emails. No. They're just on social media.

Gaby Alessi:
They're playing games or watching something you

Mary Alessi:
should yeah. And YouTube and all those ads that pop up. I said that to say, I can absolutely connect the dots of not feeling really great emotionally. And I don't wanna say mentally. No. But emotionally, I could feel like a darkness. And when I saw that, I went, that's it. Done.

Mary Alessi:
That's it. And I knew then that I had it back to back. I could link to having such a happy glass half full, the world is shiny, it's rainbow, not having those dark thoughts, I wasn't on this this horrible Yeah.

Gaby Alessi:
Which you do nothing, by

Mary Alessi:
the way.

Gaby Alessi:
You you going on your phone, you're not helping babies.

Mary Alessi:
Wow.

Gaby Alessi:
You're you're not helping them. That's very true. You're literally just you're just learning about how they're hurting and you're learning about the problem. Anything about it. No. And I think if anything if we can learn anything from the beginning of time is that too much knowledge there's a reason why God told Adam and Eve, stay away from the tree. That's right. Knowledge of good and evil.

Gaby Alessi:
That's right. Too much knowledge hurts us.

Mary Alessi:
That's right.

Gaby Alessi:
It does not help us. It brought sin into the world. That's it. We don't need to know about all the news happening in the world. We don't need to know about the details of everything. We need to be more concerned about our 10 year old daughters.

Mary Alessi:
That's right.

Gaby Alessi:
The 10 year old girls in our church, in our community, that are really going through it in their room at night or in their bathroom and searching and trying to find something rather than what's happening in all these other places. And I'm not trying to be insensitive and say, oh, don't worry about what's happening in the world. But don't be that person that is so consumed with happening outside of the country and the No. People need America, what's happening in politics and the campaigns and all of that, and your daughters are are having, like, a crisis.

Mary Alessi:
The most important thing is your world, and that is your children. And I would

Gaby Alessi:
say your world. And I would say this because I love this topic that we're talking about with, like, makeup because even a couple Wednesdays I think the last 2 Wednesdays, I've hit this in in the youth, message. Like, I've specifically talked about girls young girls in makeup. And my own process with makeup and, like, my own life with makeup, you could say, I've recently had to this sounds very Christianese, but give it to god. Yeah. Because even I found myself so obsessed with getting the right products, getting the right brand. Should I choose Victoria Beckham or Tarte? Like, what am I doing?

Mary Alessi:
Is what

Gaby Alessi:
what's the best for my skin? And then I started going down skin care, and my skin doesn't look the way that I want it to look. And and again, it's I see all of it. People don't even notice it, but I see it. And so I'm getting all these acne serums and under eye serums and and, scars. And I I wanna prevent wrinkling because I don't wanna wrinkle. And so, like, I was can I tell you I was spending so much of my money and time on these things at the end of the day? Don't add to my confidence. Don't add to my self worth. Values.

Gaby Alessi:
Don't even make my personality better.

Mary Alessi:
That's it. They don't even help me

Gaby Alessi:
or benefit anybody else. And I really had to to put it aside. And, yes, I'm not gonna say I've never stepped into Sephora. I've been into Sephora more in this time in my life than I ever have been because I'm trying to update, you know, put good products on my face. But I'm not as obsessed.

Mary Alessi:
Right.

Gaby Alessi:
And I don't walk in burden, like, I gotta find the best thing in here. I use it for what it's made to be. It's just to enhance your life. It's just to make sure you're keeping yourself. You're taking care of yourself. But if it starts to get past a certain point where it's unhealthy and you're idolizing it and you're if you don't have if you run out of that product, you're freaking out because you don't have that product. You gotta really consider some stuff about yourself. And I'm saying that as a 24 year old girl Right.

Gaby Alessi:
I've graduated college. I'm a full time staff member at a church, and I struggle with the idol of makeup and identity. So your 10 year old daughter is gonna do the same and worse.

Mary Alessi:
1 or worse because she's of a different generation.

Mary Alessi:
Abnormal's becoming the new normal. Yep. And I would say to people listening, don't buy into it. Well, please don't. You have to push yourself to be your best so that your future self will thank you later for being willing to press past all the uncomfortable sacrifices that you gotta make and not buy into the lie of this culture today that says it's okay, just be who you are. Yeah. Just accept who you are. No.

Mary Alessi:
If you're not careful about, alright, I might feel something right now. Let me not go with my feelings. If you go with your feelings constantly, then you're gonna hate yourself in the future.

Mary Alessi:
Oh, man.

Mary Alessi:
That's true. Because every you know, for one thing, every decade you change, you want different, you want more. That's it's just human nature. You go through a 10 year cycle and it's like, that was good for this year, but I want better. So that means you're gonna look at your marriage as different. If you're looking down the road, it's saying, no. I'm not gonna accept this abnormal behavior, And it's okay. I don't have to force myself to be a better husband or force myself to be a better wife today.

Mary Alessi:
I don't have to do if you do that 10 years from now, when you're now alone, single and alone because you didn't stay married, didn't try to be a better spouse, you're not gonna like it in the future.

Mary Alessi:
No. Normal is working hard at everything you do

Mary Alessi:
Mhmm.

Mary Alessi:
With expectation that your hard work will pay off in a feeling of satisfaction and a feeling of accomplishment. Abnormal says, I don't wanna fight those battles. And if I feel something that's off Yep. It's not right. So I am doing it wrong. No. You're not. That comes along with just trying to be normal, do normal things.

Mary Alessi:
I'll give you an example. 56. I'm through menopause. Right? I'm on the other side of it. Yep. But I'm around all these 34 to 48, 50 year olds now. And as I've done this a few cycles, been around a few women, what I thought when I was in my forties, around 44, having hot flashes, crying all the time, wanting to kill you, I thought was something's wrong with me. Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
So did I. Okay. Well, you did think something was wrong with me and you did

Mary Alessi:
Go ahead.

Mary Alessi:
Speak to it a lot. Anyway, we fixed it. But it wasn't abnormal. It was normal. And all I needed to do was make sure I educated myself and I worked hard and I endured through it, but it was normal. And then I'd get through it on the other side of it. The minute I went to the doctor, he's like, oh, honey, that's normal. That's what this is.

Mary Alessi:
In my mind, I was like, it can be. Something's off. There's a demon. There's a dark force in me because it's really real when you're going through it. Some women struggle with severe migraines. Some have pains all throughout their body. When I started really going through the other side of menopause and I started having pains in my ankle, the back of my ankle, how can that be menopause? But you know what I found out? It's menopause. Wow.

Mary Alessi:
It's a lack of something. So I don't give into it. I stretch myself. I find out what's the remedy for it. But the death of of normal and I'm just using it as a very practical because I'm a practical person. I can talk to a younger person, a younger woman now, and when she says, man, I'm I'm having hot flashes. How old are you? 45. That's normal.

Mary Alessi:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
Okay. I'm going through in my marriage and we're not on the same page about our future. That's normal. Yeah. Fight for it. You'll get there.

Mary Alessi:
Yes.

Mary Alessi:
Don't quit. Well, I'm going through it with my teenagers and all of them wanna be on Instagram and social media. And one of them is acting you know, their their best friend is a guy that is now a girl and they're giving guess what? Sadly, in this day, having to fight your teenager over something like that is normal.

Mary Alessi:
Mhmm.

Mary Alessi:
But fight. Fight. Don't let normal die and give in to the abnormal.

Mary Alessi:
Yeah, Mary.

Mary Alessi:
Don't give in to the lifestyle that's saying, well, guess what? I mean, Paul just said it. When he said it in in his letter, it's good to know that the road we're on, this case study is the right one. Old fashioned is normal.

Mary Alessi:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
It's not old fashioned. It's not that's what we even said in the podcast. But everybody is so quick to give up just being normal. It's the death of normal where abnormal is like now it's sexy.

Mary Alessi:
Okay. Here's what they're gonna upgrade in their life. They're gonna upgrade their car. They're gonna upgrade their phone. Forget the car. Their phone. Every year they gotta get a new phone. They gotta upgrade their phone.

Mary Alessi:
They're gonna upgrade their picture on their social media platform. But they won't upgrade their life because society says don't do that. If you're feeling weird, you're kind of you're not in the right mental space. It's okay. Yeah. You've got mental health issues. We can we can placate that and not put too much pressure on you. Right? Babe, people have to realize no, here's what is put on the inside of us.

Mary Alessi:
It was put there by the Creator.

Mary Alessi:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
Always strive to be your best. That's right. So even from a religious standpoint, if you don't mind, our spiritual, not religious, spiritual standpoint, there's this message that came on the scene a few years ago that pretty much wrecked the strong, healthy, normal church. And it was all about this message of grace.

Mary Alessi:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
That God grace is this unmerited favor. It's it's it's something you you just can't you can't earn the favor. Favor is is the blessing of God in your life. You can't earn it. It's just given to you

Mary Alessi:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
Because of God's love. And there's so much truth to that. That everything good God wants to give us, he gives us because we're a heavenly father. Now we can mess that up because we can mishandle the things that he wants to give us. People on the side of grace, were making it more about, well, lean in on the forgiveness factor instead of leaning in towards let me not do those things Right. That are causing me some pain. That the failure. Let me not lean into being better and not, you know, step into that sin.

Mary Alessi:
That's not what they've done. They've leaned more to, I'll get forgiveness. We even make that statement. It's better to get forgiveness than permission. Right. We're so conditioned to saying, oh, I can talk my way out of it by saying, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Mary Alessi:
Well, that's a big problem if you carry it out over and over again. So what it's come down to is one guy has called it cheap grace. Cheap grace. It's grace that really isn't costing you anything. But grace has cost somebody something. So I I follow this gentleman. His name is Jim Dennison, the Dennison Forum. Love the guy.

Mary Alessi:
And he talks about just a few things that that if our audience could grab hold of when it comes to making sure they're they're not buying into the cheap grace philosophy about their life is cheap grace across the board. It'll undermine first real repentance. Yeah. And repentance is not just saying I'm sorry when I've hurt somebody. It's saying I'm sorry, but then working on never doing that thing again. That can cause people pain. If you don't have that kind of mindset, then it undermines what real repentance is about. Absolutely.

Mary Alessi:
It it dilutes what is considered the cost of being a disciple, following after Christ, and and being a Christ follower is being a Christ doer. Right. Doing the things that Christ did. A follower says let me do that. It undermines that when all you do is lean in on oh, forgive me. I didn't do better. And quite frankly, maybe I'll never do better. Right.

Mary Alessi:
It undermines that. It it weakens our faith. If if we lean into always being the weaker instead of the stronger, then why do you even need faith? Faith is is something that, quite frankly, we demonstrate, not just something we talk about or we believe. It's something we demonstrate. It compromises ethical living. Right. Instead of elevating ourselves to make sure I'm treating you in an ethical way, I'm again leaning into relying on, well, my bad. Forgiveness and grace.

Mary Alessi:
My bad. Yeah. See, so I could go on about some other things that are really cool about making sure we don't lean into the cheap grace, but instead use grace for what it is, which is allowing us to be our best version of ourselves. Right. So even grace pushes us to be better. Right. That's normal. Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
Everything from the creation of man at the beginning, God put it in them to be your very best. Take dominion, Go out and conquer. Use your gifts and talents to be better. Everything from that point on has been about the normal is being the best version of yourself, not permitting yourself to be a lesser version.

Mary Alessi:
Absolutely.

Mary Alessi:
And so I would just say to our audience, don't buy into the abnormal mentality that is out there today where you're constantly given a pass for failing and not being your best. Yes.

Mary Alessi:
Let me

Mary Alessi:
tell you why I love doing our family business Okay. Podcast. Okay?

Mary Alessi:
Mhmm.

Mary Alessi:
Our church as pastors, our church has gotten bigger and bigger. We when we were small started our church in 1997. When we were small, everybody knew us. And when they knew us, they knew our heart Right. Because they were with us all the time.

Mary Alessi:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
And we would talk, go to restaurants after church. You know, we'd load up the little restaurant. We'd have leadership meetings Yes. All the time. Yep. So it wasn't just they watched us, but they were with us. They heard us. They they got it.

Mary Alessi:
So people knew our heart. Right. The interesting thing with growth is the larger you get now that we've got 1,000 coming to the church and you've got not just 1 church building that you're housing them, that's divided up into a number of different complexes because you got kids there in one complex, chill youth in the other complex. Parents are are spread thin. It's not not just one campus. We're in 2 campuses. Plus, we have this online campus. The numbers are growing.

Mary Alessi:
The eyes more eyes are on us on a regular basis. Something that I had to learn is that the bigger we're growing, the less people really know me and you. Right. I want them to know my heart, but they don't know my heart because they don't know me. All they know us as, most of them, is who they see on the platform. Right. So what was happening is I wasn't making this transition and changing into this leader that would say things off the cuff. Right.

Mary Alessi:
And I knew I could get by with it because the people knew my heart. What I was learning, and this is a harsh reality, is the more people start watching you, the less you have to be able to interact with all of them so they don't know your heart. Mhmm. And all they know you is by what you say. Right. So if I said something tongue in cheek, which for this Cuban community is a joke. Right. Tongue in cheek, man.

Mary Alessi:
I said it off the cuff. I said it as a joke. I was just putting it out there to get a laugh. What I learned was not everybody was laughing, and they were getting offended because they didn't really know me. What the podcast booth is able to do

Gaby Alessi:
Right.

Mary Alessi:
Is us coming in here, and we've said it. We talk in here about things we can't talk about on Sunday, is it allows people to get to know us more Right. Outside of just the church pulpit experience. Right. So they're not just hearing from us on Sunday in a sermon that's been crafted and prepared to deliver a message. Now they're healing our hearing our heart. Right. How do we feel about this? Why do we feel this way about this? Why our kids say certain things? Why they act certain ways? We're we're more intentional about our life now.

Mary Alessi:
We're able to put that out there for people, which is the gift that this podcast has given back to me and you is it's helping our people get to know us better and us even get to know our people better. So that's my reason. Why do you like the family pod business podcast with the Alessis?

Mary Alessi:
I would say for the same reason, I think. I don't have as much, exposure in the platform speaking as you do, so I sing more. So it's a I have a little bit of a different role than you do at our church. But as I have begun to speak more, I'm feeling that pressure of, Man, you gotta really watch the words you say and the jokes you make. And when people don't know you, they don't know your humor. They don't know your intentions. They don't really know. So they can quickly rush to judgment about you, even from the perspective of our relationship.

Mary Alessi:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
You know, they can make a judgment call on you and me just by how I might respond to you or a look I might give you or a a lack of response you might give me. Oh, he didn't laugh at that. And she said that from the platform. He didn't laugh or vice versa. You know, people are they're they're looking at optics all the time. We are too. And when there's less and less people that are able to spend that downtime when we are just really showing our heart through leadership training or when we used to go away on retreats. The church was small enough that our people that were with us, like you said, they did they knew us.

Mary Alessi:
They knew us. So now we're in a different place. This gives us the opportunity to, like you said, really share in long form what we believe about that situation. But we also get to kind of explain a lot of our relationship and how it works and, how we're both strong so that if they picked up from something optically that they saw on the platform or at church, they could be dead wrong. Absolutely, completely. They misread us. Mhmm. What don't we do that too?

Mary Alessi:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
Every one of us does that. When we don't really know someone, we make snap judgment. So this does allow us to kinda clear up some of that with people. And they get to feel close to us and feel like they know us, which then in turn gives us a lot more of, we're a lot more established in their hearts.

Mary Alessi:
It's relational equity.

Mary Alessi:
It really it really, really is.

Allen Paul:
Yeah.

Mary Alessi:
That's one thing. The other thing that I like is I have a lot to say, and I don't get to say it.

Mary Alessi:
Well

Mary Alessi:
So the podcast gives me an opportunity to say what the heck I wanna say.

Mary Alessi:
Oh, and I was gonna say that since we're saying all these things. We have to say it right.

Mary Alessi:
What I want to say is

Mary Alessi:
What you want to say is what I'm

Mary Alessi:
gonna say it.

Mary Alessi:
This is the gift that I think our podcast is that I appreciate with for you. You don't have an opportunity to say it all because they you're saying, and everybody loves your voice, and I love your voice, and it's so precious, but they don't get your wisdom. And our family is what it is, Not because I'm this great guy. Our family is what it is, is because both of us have a certain level of of wisdom that we come to the table with. People get to hear my comments on a regular basis. They don't always get to hear your wisdom. And that's the thing that I so love about you when it comes time to you speaking. Sometimes you you get crafted in a sermon.

Mary Alessi:
That's all you are. But what people don't realize is outside of that sermon, you have so much more to say. And you say it with in a way that, gosh, I wish I had a camera to catch it. Because it can't ever we can't put you in the spot in the moment to do it. It like just comes out of you.

Mary Alessi:
You did that one time in the podcast booth, though.

Mary Alessi:
I don't know if you remember. And did it happen?

Mary Alessi:
No. I failed epically because you went, this is it. This is what she does, guys. This is it. Okay. Go, go, go, Mary. Just go. And my in my brain, I'm going, what am I gonna say? I don't know what I'm gonna say.

Mary Alessi:
Oh my gosh. And you set me up. And it was honest on your part, but it was an epic fail on my part. I don't know which podcast it was, but it was bad.

Mary Alessi:
Are you kidding? That's the part that I I love because I love them hearing this wisdom that has built our family, helped the 2 of us together. It's, we've built our family and ultimately built our ministry, which is our business. Yeah. And that's where this whole podcast originated from. You just gotta be able to sit with us on the patio. We had a great night last night, by the night, by the way, on the patio.

Mary Alessi:
It was beautiful. We could sit and talk.

Mary Alessi:
It was the weather was great after monsooned in Miami.

Mary Alessi:
For days.

Mary Alessi:
For days. And finally was it was beautiful last night. And we sat our undocked chairs and had a good, conversation with Lulu.

Mary Alessi:
And you know what I noticed about myself? Maybe this is a season 7 conversation, but I'm just gonna pitch it here because we've got a couple minutes. You know what I've noticed?

Mary Alessi:
Go ahead.

Mary Alessi:
They say that men, the intimacy is through sex, right, and that women like conversation. And I I don't even know that I've stopped long enough to even process that thought. Oh, do I need that for intimacy? I have found that as I have gotten older, that those moments of just where you and I sit Now Lauren was there and we got into that conversation. But intimacy is I don't mean it always Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sexually. I'm just saying we need intimacy differently, women need it differently.

Mary Alessi:
And even having that moment where we didn't go in and watch something on Netflix, you went outside, I joined you outside, then Lauren came out and she we're like, let's eat out here. And we just naturally gravitated because the weather was nice. And we had one of the most beautiful conversations about nothing. But it was such time well spent and the power of conversation creating intimacy, not only with you and me, but us and our daughter having that one on one with her for about an hour and a half and how it was good for her. It was good for us. It just rebooted everything. And I I quite frankly, that's I think the power of a podcast.

Mary Alessi:
Because Well, you're getting me thinking about something here. And I I don't know if I can say it right.

Mary Alessi:
Don't. What is it? Whisper it. Don't say it. You scare me so bad.

Mary Alessi:
If you talking with me, is is is just it's a form of intimacy Mhmm. Then we could actually say

Mary Alessi:
Oh, no.

Mary Alessi:
Since we're talking so much in the podcast booth. The Family Business Podcast has helped our sex life.

Mary Alessi:
Okay. Oh. Maybe it has.

Mary Alessi:
Thank you.

Mary Alessi:
You know what? Wow. Maybe it has. True.

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