How do parents stand firm and guide their children as the culture promotes increasingly radical and dangerous ideas? The Alessis explain how you can step up and speak out.
How do parents stand firm and guide their children as the culture promotes increasingly radical and dangerous ideas? The Alessis explain how you can step up and speak out.
June used to represent things like the end of school, summer vacation and family fun. . Unfortunately, things have changed - and for families with traditional values, it's not for the better.
As the nation enters yet another 'celebration' of the LGBTQ+ community in June, we're here to help you guide your family through this extraordinarily unsettling and confusing time.
In this episode, the Alessis take you through a controversial and eye-opening discussion on the dangers of the transgender movement, its impact on women, and the forces driving these rapid changes in our society. We also delve into the recent Target fiasco and its broader implications.
You'll learn the importance of open and honest conversations, standing up for our beliefs in a world that may not agree, and tackling the complexities of parenting in the face of cultural shifts.
Don't miss this vital conversation as we help your family grapple with these difficult issues.
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Steve Alessi: Hello and welcome to another episode of The Family Business with the Alessis. I'm Steve Alessi, and today I'm with Mary Alessi, who is wearing a gorgeous wearing orange jacket.
Mary Alessi: Wearing orange?
Steve Alessi: Yes, you're wearing orange. Mary, we're going to have fun podcast today.
Mary Alessi: Okay.
Steve Alessi: What are we going to be talking about?
Mary Alessi: So I think this is going to be fun, but it's also going to be controversial.
Steve Alessi: Good.
Mary Alessi: So be preparada. Be prepared, because it is. We decided we're going to jump in the podcast and really talk about what's going on in the world. And I just want to just run down some of the bullet points of stuff that we want to talk about so that our listeners know right away. This is what we're talking about on this podcast. Do, um, you want me to throw the title out there?
Steve Alessi: Throw them all out there. Just go for it.
Mary Alessi: So the title of this podcast is going to be why We Are Not Proud.
Steve Alessi: Stop for a minute. If you can be offended, you will be offended. That's just a warning. This podcast may offend you go.
Mary Alessi: And that's okay. We can handle that. We can all handle our opinions and be grown ups. Okay. So, um, the title of this is Why We Are Not Proud of Pride Month. And we are embarking on that June 1.
Steve Alessi: Say it again.
Mary Alessi: Why we are not proud of Pride Month.
Steve Alessi: There you go.
Mary Alessi: Um, things are off the rails. They're out of control. And us being a podcast about family, the nuclear family, raising good kids up, um, it's very concerning for us also in our line of work, what we deal with on a counseling perspective. Um, we see the dark side of this, so we want to talk about it and how we can help families. So we're going to talk about what's going on with Target right now, the fiasco that that is. We've been having so many conversations at home with our adult children and their friends about it. Um, and boy, do they have opinions, which is very inspiring. And then, how dangerous is this new transgender movement? Is it a movement? Is it a mission? Or is it just a phase? Is this the new normal? We're going to talk about that. Is what's happening that's coming in so fast and furious. Is this all about money, or is this a new doctrine that progressives are pushing through? Which one is we can change. The other one is a little bit more dangerous. We're going to talk about that. Um, is this a war on women? Because you keep saying to me, when are women going to speak out? Why aren't women offended? We are. So we will speak out. Ah, women's sports, how they've been impacted. It kind of started there. Who is behind all of this? Um, and how did we go from a Pee - wee Herman scandal 20 years ago who turned out to be a pedophile to this in 20 years. And the most important question, I think, is how should we talk to our kids about what's happening?
Steve Alessi: Good.
Mary Alessi: So those are the things we're going to be diving in. And if you don't like any of that, you can turn us off right now.
Steve Alessi: Our posture is going to be this, okay, how do we respond to the culture the LGBTQ community is imposing on those of us whose biblical values say what they are promoting is wrong?
Mary Alessi: Exactly.
Steve Alessi: So we have to make a comment. We have to take a stand. We have to say, Wait, we disagree with this. And the person itself. I mean, Mary, I can go down the street and have a disagreement with somebody about sports.
Mary Alessi: Right.
Steve Alessi: And, um, it could be civil. I'm civil. They're civil. I can have a disagreement. I can disagree with you about places we need to go eat, and I could talk to somebody about, hey, I disagree. No, this restaurant is the best, or this pizza is, uh, the best here. We can have certain disagreements, and they remain civil. What I'm troubled with is if a Christian whose values do not support the LGBTQ community expresses their values, the LGBT community turns around and wants to have a fight with us, call us names, tell us we're bigots, and we're made to feel like we can't even speak up. Or we can't go to Target and say, hey, listen, that display in the front there, that's promoting this not just, um, alternate lifestyle, but now even Satanic themes. Satanic themes in it absolutely is offensive to me. Now, listen, I've gone to Target, and I can't find the nice joggers that I want in the back. Never find my size, but I can go there in the display, and there's thousands of clothing, uh, right in the display.
Mary Alessi: No, right in the front of the store.
Steve Alessi: Yes. Promoting this lifestyle of LGBTQ community. All right, so here's what we're doing. Our podcast, our mics, our table, our ministry. We're Christians, right? And we do not support or embrace or celebrate anything that Pride Month is trying to get us to support, right?
Mary Alessi: And more than get us to support, ram it down our throats and say, you must concede and you must celebrate. It's not good enough that you just leave us alone and let us be. No one's harming anyone. You have to accept who we are, and you have to celebrate who we are. Sit in it a little bit. Change your values for us, because your values are wrong. Everything you've been taught about heterosexual, nuclear, family, all of that is wrong. And not only is it wrong, but you're evil for believing that way, because the very fact that you say you don't accept us in our entirety, the whole alphabet group, then somehow we are bigoted. We are racist. We hear this daily from secular media. Um, and the scariest part is how many Christians cave and feel like their voice can't be heard. Because if you speak out about it, you don't want to be associated as a racist or a bigot.
Steve Alessi: Right?
Mary Alessi: And that's what's so wrong. I can have an opinion and say something is wrong and not be a racist or a bigot right or a sexist.
Steve Alessi: Mhm.
Mary Alessi: I have a right to speak. The last time I checked the Constitution and our laws, I can still speak. I can't throw stones. I can't hurt anybody. Wouldn't do that as a Christian. But I do have the right to voice my opinion, especially my core beliefs and my core values, and teach our children the way that we believe. That's not illegal, the last I checked. Now, I think they're working hard. The government's right, right now. They're working hard at coming against parents. We heard our president just say it a couple of weeks ago. They're not your children. Our children belong to the nation. No, that's very dangerous language for a President of the United States to say. And it isn't true. No. They are our children, so we can't be afraid to speak out.
Steve Alessi: Yeah. Well, Mary, the White House press secretary says the other day, um, jumping on the bandwagon of, uh, boycotting Florida, more or less, because it's in the NAACP, the travel ban, they support it because and then she goes through a list of about four or five or six different things that Florida is bigoted and Florida is anti this, anti that. Every one of these things that she said the White House was for, uh, is everything Christian values are against.
Mary Alessi: Absolutely.
Steve Alessi: And I'm listening to that and I'm like, wow, how crazy. So here's the point we just want to come across in a way to express to our listeners that also call themselves Christian. It's okay for you to say, I'm not going to celebrate Pride Month, right? I'm going to say something here and please, this is really kind of crazy, right? Maybe offensive. We had May was Mental Health Awareness Month, right? Mhm. Because we have a mental health crisis in America.
Mary Alessi: And we do.
Steve Alessi: And if we go back and look at mental health crisis, I would not be surprised if a lot of those and a lot of those that are confused, a lot of those who are finding themselves, um, in chaos and mentally just going through it. Hey, maybe we wouldn't have a mental health crisis, uh, month in May if we didn't have a pride month in June. Could very well be you're pushing down values that are not Christian values, and they will not lead you to health and well being. Bible says, I wish above all things you'd prosper in health. And even as your soul prosper, there's got to be a connection. Yes, there is a connection between your soul prospering and the rest of your life prospering. You cannot go right in life by doing wrong. And these principles that are being promoted by the LGBTQ community during Pride Month. They're not Godly principles and it's not going to lead to a good health.
Mary Alessi: No. And I would absolutely second that because you said the word soul. Beloved, I pray that you would prosper even as your soul prospers what? Prospers in your soul, um, an anchoring, a hope, a solid foundation of who you are and whose you are. And mental health and that wellness or lack of health is really confusion and feeling lost and a sense of belonging. So if I don't belong here, maybe I belong there. Well, what we're learning that promotes dire mental crisis, mental health crisis is a loneliness and a feeling of I don't know who I am, I don't know what I am. And what we're seeing more than ever is on our phones. We've talked about this before. We all know the problem. We all know the root of the problem. We've got just too much coming at us and there's too many options with that. Your brain can't manage all of that. Mhm so now you've got a sick soul and you're promoting a sick soul. Okay, so it's the chicken or the egg. What comes first? Well, in the communities that are trying to find identity in sexuality, find identity in attraction, there's no soullish health there because, um, unstable situations can't create a stable environment. Mhm so if you're still looking and you're lost and you think this is going to help me, well, there's an instability in you until you find stableness, right?
Steve Alessi: Yes.
Mary Alessi: Okay, well, you can't expect instability to create stable things. An unstable person can't do stable things. So it's a vicious cycle. The more a, uh, community gets promoted and forced down our throat. It's not a litmus test. Let's see how they do in 20 years. Let's see what this lifestyle promotes and creates. How much stability does it create for the children of that community? Or just the overall impact that it makes in the world? Can we just wait and see? Everybody rejected COVID medication because we didn't have enough peer reviews, we didn't have enough time to prove, but now we're shoving down a community that's changing the nuclear family, that's changing our economics, that's changing our values, chasing our children to give them way more options than they need, causing what? Way more confusion, creating a mental health crisis. Mhm but yet to take hydroxychloroquine. It was banned vitamin C. Oh, because we don't have enough peer reviewed articles, testing coming in. Well, are you kidding me? But you can go put a gender bending for a 14 year old boy, a bathing suit in the front of Target that helps him hold his package up so he can go to the beach and feel like a pretty girl. How about this? Let him just wear a regular girl's bathing suit. Just go let his mama help him tape it up. Um, let's just be honest it doesn't make any sense, because if you're going to do that and this is where the confusion comes in and where now you're saying mental health crisis in May and all this in June, you're right. It's once promoting the other. Because here's what I would say. You have compassion for that 14 year old boy that's confused. You don't have compassion for that 35 year old man that's confused. Walking in to a rainbow colored section that is attractive to little girls. It's so evil and demonic. How about you just sell it at the store where if you want an adult toy, you go buy it? Why aren't those at the front of the store?
Steve Alessi: Okay, say that now. This is what you said the other morning, and I thought this was great. So you can't go into Target and.
Mary Alessi: Buy adult toys or women's lingerie.
Steve Alessi: Mhm.
Mary Alessi: Or men's lingerie.
Steve Alessi: Not in the front. There's no it's in the back.
Mary Alessi: Go to your why are there Triple X stores?
Steve Alessi: Yeah.
Mary Alessi: It does not make any sense, but you're going to have this in the front that you're targeting to children with rainbows on it. And then let's throw Satan in there, too. And for anybody who's questioning us, just Google it. We're not talking out of things that you can check on. Snopes. And it's been snopes. No.
Steve Alessi: Snoops.
Mary Alessi: Whatever it's called.
Steve Alessi: Uh, right.
Mary Alessi: You can look it up yourself. It will scare you what you're going to find that is happening right now in real time.
Steve Alessi: Okay, so let's talk about this because.
Mary Alessi: Sorry, but I'm just that's all right.
Steve Alessi: I think what we can say to parents that are in this environment with their kids, whose kids are maybe being taught this in school, seeing pictures and so on and so forth, okay, um, I want to give them some things here. Give me some tools. Give me a resource. Okay, first off, I think you need to do this one. Don't be behind. Meaning, hey, wake up.
Mary Alessi: Wake up.
Steve Alessi: This is happening in our schools. Your kids are being indoctrinated. Get ready. This is coming. Social media. You're not checking their phones. You're not looking at the ads. You're not seeing what the social media influence from Hollywood are doing. If you're not paying attention, man, you better wake up, because this is being crammed down our throats for you to have to go to a stinking Target store. And that's what you're met with here. They're saying shut up. Your Christian values don't matter. This is what you need to be embracing. You got to wake up.
Mary Alessi: You got to wake up, and you got to speak up.
Steve Alessi: Well, that's coming next, but just wake up. Talk to me about waking up. Why are parents lost? Why is Moms not talking to their kids about this? Man?
Mary Alessi: M. I'll tell you why. Because just like, we're afraid to know when's the right time to talk to our children about sex in general, and we're afraid to talk to them about drugs because we all have this fear. Oh, if they know, then they're going to do. The truth is, kids are a lot smarter than we think they are. If you talk to them about it and you give them the absolutes before it's ever a question, it's when you leave them out there in random land, confused. That's what parents are for. Parents are to say, no, this is who you are.
Steve Alessi: Okay, stop for a minute. Because the school is already teaching them this.
Mary Alessi: I know.
Steve Alessi: They're teaching them to embrace this trance, whole theology.
Mary Alessi: They are.
Steve Alessi: How pathetic is that? So if a parent doesn't wake up and say, wait a minute, I better say to my kid, listen, I don't care what Johnny's daddy does. Here's what your daddy does.
Mary Alessi: That's right.
Steve Alessi: I don't care what they do over at such and such a household, but in my household, this is what we do. We don't embrace that. That stuff's not normal. That's not who we are as people. You got to wake up mom and dad.
Mary Alessi: Listen, uh, one of the young women in our church, she's been with us since she was a little girl. Her four year old son came home and told her, my friend, who happens to be the son of the principal of this school, okay, four years old. He said, my friend, Mommy told me that boys can be boys and girls can be girls. I mean, girl, you could be the opposite. Boys could be girls and girls could be boys, and you could marry whoever you want. Four years old. Why is that four year old talking about it? You know why? Because his mom told him, mhm, she got to him quick. And I hate this. I hate this. For all the parents that have strong nuclear family values that are trying to protect their children, I hate this for them. But they don't get the, um, benefits that we got with our children ten years ago, 20 years ago. They're going to have to talk to their children right now.
Steve Alessi: So don't be behind. Don't just wake um up. Here's the other thing. Don't be afraid. You got to stand up.
Mary Alessi: That's right.
Steve Alessi: You got to be able to say, I'm, um, willing to die on this particular mountain. And Mary, we say about our podcast that we get to talk about things here in the podcast booth that we don't get to talk about on Sunday, right? We are very sensitive to our live audience because we know many of them have challenges in their past and even in their family as it pertains to this. We understand some work in an environment where this is being, again, so forced down their throat that you've got to be careful that you don't take a stand. I mean, I had to go through a class as a board member for the commissioners, um, that in order to be a board member of a faith board for the county commissioners. I had to go into a classroom via Zoom on inclusion. I had to be sensitive to all of these things. And this is what some people are being forced to live with. You can't express your opposition. You have to go with the flow. Right?
Mary Alessi: Right.
Steve Alessi: Well, there comes a time where you better just learn that. Listen, the crowd's going to get you in trouble.
Mary Alessi: Yeah.
Steve Alessi: You're going to have to stand up and be a solo voice on this in your household and say, wait, this is not going to help you hon.
Mary Alessi: No.
Steve Alessi: Look at your kids at a young age. You're going to see their friends. If you don't like the friends they're hanging with, you don't like the parents of the friends they're hanging with, then stand up and say something to your kids. Don't let them be eaten up by this culture. That is a lot stronger right now because they've got a lot of the money that's being put behind this. They've got a lot of airtime. There's some powers at B here that we know ultimately comes from the very pit of hell. It does that if you're not saying something, uh, standing up for something. Somebody is standing up and saying to your kids, this is the way that you need to live. So we need parents to have a backbone here and stand up.
Mary Alessi: Well, this is about kids now. So what's next? Because in 2008, when gay marriage was passed, I believe it was 2008 or 2016. Someone can correct me on that. 2008. When that happened, so many of us as Christians said, well, we were fighting amongst ourselves with other Christians. Let them be. What's the big deal? Um, we fought the battle long and hard, and we've got the gay people in our church, so there was confusion there. Well, now we know we didn't die on that mountain. Are we going to die on this one? Because if we don't, what's next?
Steve Alessi: When they're coming for our kids?
Mary Alessi: Because this is about our kids now. This isn't about adults making decisions about who they love and who they want to marry. This is about our children. Our children. Our grandchildren, uh, are now being exposed to this by walking into Target. Somebody just told me today that Dollar Tree is doing the same thing. And in the month of June, we're going to see it everywhere. If you go to Disney, it's everywhere.
Steve Alessi: Our police departments are going to have cars colored like rainbows.
Mary Alessi: So you got to tell your kids what the rainbow really means.
Steve Alessi: Yeah. So the powers at bay, they have no at B, have no problem standing up for what they believe. No, we have to stand up.
Mary Alessi: They've become masters at Gaslighting mhm, and we have to understand something. We have God on our side. And when we stand up for truth and we're not afraid, we don't have to do it with a pick in our hand or a poster in our hand. We don't ever have to get aggressive or violent or unloving. It is not unloving to say, I disagree with that lifestyle. It is not unloving, uh, to say that. That is my right to say that. That is your right to say that. And it's not passing down hatred to your children to tell them, listen, we love everybody, and we are never going to exclude or be rude or mean or cruel to anyone. But as for me, in my house, this is the lifestyle that we believe honors God.
Steve Alessi: Baby. Uh, when? In 2015. That was the date we're looking at. Thanks, John, for this information. 2015 is when same sex marriage was legalized in all 50 states there you go. Of the United States. Look what happened when that was legalized. Look what door it opened up.
Mary Alessi: Yeah, seven years later.
Steve Alessi: Crazy. Just seven years crazy.
Mary Alessi: So what's next? That's why people need to wake up and stand up.
Steve Alessi: And we've all heard it. It's pedophilia.
Mary Alessi: It is.
Steve Alessi: It's opening the doors. It's going to get nasty. That's why. Look, you may not be able to fight the big goliaths of the country. Maybe that's not on you. Mom and dad.
Mary Alessi: Right.
Steve Alessi: But you can fight it in your home. That's it with your kids, because it's all going to start in the can.
Mary Alessi: I say something really quickly here? Jordan Peterson has a whole new series on Exodus, and he's talking to all these Bible theologists. It's incredible. And this is why we as Christians need to speak up. We can't leave it to secular voices to just do all our preaching. We have to do it, too. But there's a statement that he makes that's so powerful, and he talks about how Moses had to make a choice. Um, he either had to follow God or follow Pharaoh. And he couldn't negotiate with Pharaoh. He had to make a decision. It's either die or follow Pharaoh. Both of them lead you to the same place. And Moses had to not only make a decision for himself, but for how many thousands of Israelites? But they also the children of Israel, had to make a decision to put and this is in your Bible. You can read it. Blood on the doorpost and take their children inside. And as the death angel came over, it would know those that were believing in the promise of God to leave, to do something, not just protest target and boycott target, literally put their lives at risk, to go to a land where they could have been consumed by the land. They had nowhere to go. They'd been slaves, and they had had a living, a lifestyle, but it was still one of slaves for, what, 400 years? And here comes Moses, and he's going to lead them out. Talk about trusting not just to protest and speak out, but to say we are going to leave this slavery that we've only known from our great great grandfathers on down to Leave because it's better to be in the wilderness than to follow Pharaoh another day.
Steve Alessi: Yeah.
Mary Alessi: But they were willing to say, first we'll take our children into our homes to be identified as the ones who were going to follow Moses out.
Steve Alessi: Very that's powerful.
Mary Alessi: But it was also not only to be identified, but it was to protect their children from the death angel.
Steve Alessi: Yeah.
Mary Alessi: So everybody saw the blood on the doorposts? Mhm the whole town, the whole city, all of Egypt saw the blood on the door posts. Yeah, they knew, but yet God protected them. And that's what I'm saying. It's never going to be any easier than it is right now to take.
Steve Alessi: A stand or any harder.
Mary Alessi: It's only going to get harder.
Steve Alessi: It's going to get harder, which then means this, okay? Don't be behind, don't be afraid, but then don't be vague.
Mary Alessi: Yeah.
Steve Alessi: With your kids, you've got to speak up, um, and get specific.
Mary Alessi: Yes.
Steve Alessi: Not all people are bad. The Bible says God came for God, so loved the world. Not the perfect right. Not the person that's just in the church. Okay?
Mary Alessi: Yeah.
Steve Alessi: The world, those that are outside the church. So we've got to be able to say to people, listen, they're good people, they're just wrong.
Mary Alessi: Right. That's just not right.
Steve Alessi: Bad choice.
Mary Alessi: Right.
Steve Alessi: And your choices are going to make up what your life's going to be like in the future.
Mary Alessi: Right.
Steve Alessi: This is just not us.
Mary Alessi: That's right.
Steve Alessi: So we've got to speak up. We've got to have the dialogue. We've got to have the conversation. You got to ask your kids what they're thinking about this. They're coming to youth group. They're hearing things. They come to church on Sunday, they hear things. Hey, what did you think about that message?
Mary Alessi: That's right.
Steve Alessi: What did you think about what Pastor Steve said, or Gabby said, or Pastor Chris or Pastor what did you think about that? Did you hear that? Have the conversation with your kids. And if you find themselves, if you find that they themselves are off, your job is to help bring a course correction to them. You can help them with that if you're not nudging them along, speaking up and showing them what is black and what is white, what is right, what is wrong. If you're not doing that, then you're leaving it very vague and, uh, the voice of others are going to come in and cause them to be confused with their own thought process. Well, I think young people are asking today, what is right?
Mary Alessi: Well, if you don't do it you just said it. You're leaving them to be, um, confused by the people around them in that world that are filled with nothing but propaganda. And you have to sit them down and trust God and trust them enough to say, we're going to talk about this right now and have an adult conversation with your child. It's so awful. But you know what? When, uh, Martha and I were in the podcast booth a couple of weeks ago, we said everything's changed, but nothing's really changed because it's all changed as far as the fruit of what we're seeing in the world today. But the truth is, it's the same conversation our parents would have had with us if you had gone to a friend's church, a friend's house that smoked pot.
Steve Alessi: Yeah.
Mary Alessi: Your mom and dad would say, Listen, we love their family, but you're not going over there anymore. Yeah, we don't smoke pot. They drink a lot. We don't do that. Nothing against them, but we don't do that. A girl with a bad attitude, I don't like the way she speaks to her parents. You're not going over there.
Steve Alessi: Right?
Mary Alessi: Why? Because I don't want you talking to me that way.
Steve Alessi: Mhm.
Mary Alessi: Nothing's changed. But everything's changed. But the conversation and the confidence, um, of the parent is the same. If the parent will walk into that confidence and not be intimidated by the gaslighting of this generation who's trying to force something through so fast and furiously that it's making our head spin and the world's on fire. But you know what? Nothing's changed. Parents, get your wits about you. Be wise, be bold. Sit your kids down and have a conversation. We don't embrace everybody. We never have, never have, especially while we're raising you. You're in a very vulnerable season. And this is what we know will bring more confidence and a sense of security to you. And what you don't understand right now, you will in the future. So that's it. Mhm now, what's so scary, Steve, to those parents is how we're hearing in our government right now. They're trying to block parents from being able to speak to their children. Parents. Better fight against that and say you will. I'll take my kids out so fast, watch what I will do. The kids are yours. They've always been yours. They don't belong to anybody but you. And, you know, here's the thing. At the end of the day, we are responsible. The government's not. We will stand before God and give an account. So if that doesn't scare you, I don't know what else will. Mhm you're still responsible to stand up before God and say, either I caved because I was so afraid of what people in the world who right? Who are you afraid of? Be bold, be strong. They're your children. You'll give an account to God before for them.
Steve Alessi: Yeah. School teachers want to say, there are kids.
Mary Alessi: No.
Steve Alessi: You'Re not only going to touch my kid, you're not going to touch them for a year and then hand them off to somebody else.
Mary Alessi: We learned through COVID you could take your kids out.
Steve Alessi: Oh, uh, no way.
Mary Alessi: Take them out?
Steve Alessi: Yeah. Well, the church environment is a. Good place, our church environments a good place as we try our best to be as healthy as possible, to be as balanced as possible, to not come across and beat people up, but to preach truth in love. And where's the love? It's that our arms are open on a regular basis. And yes, I've always said this about Christianity. The Bible says more or less come as you are, right? But once you get locked into a relationship with God, now change.
Mary Alessi: Right?
Steve Alessi: Yes.
Mary Alessi: Right.
Steve Alessi: That's how it is. All of us come flawed. We come to God flawed, broken, messed up. And because we don't want to stay broken and messed up, we make changes in our life to start doing it God's way, the right way.
Mary Alessi: Yes.
Steve Alessi: So what we ultimately are trying to say today is, as a Christian, you have every right to be able to stand up and say, I don't appreciate, I don't approve, I will not celebrate anything that is Pride related in the month of June. I don't do it. And it doesn't mean you're a hater.
Mary Alessi: No.
Steve Alessi: Doesn't mean you're a bigot. Doesn't mean you're a racist or a sexist. It means that you are a principal person that chooses to abide by biblical principles that speak very black and white about this subject matter.
Mary Alessi: That's right.
Steve Alessi: Quite frankly, Mary, when I open up my calendar, I don't like that I can't get rid of during the month of Pride. It's on my calendar in there. Not because I put it in.
Mary Alessi: No.
Steve Alessi: They've made it a national holiday. How pathetic.
Mary Alessi: Well, you know, here's the irony and the hilarity of it all. We've been pastors for how many years? Um, all of our lives we've had people that have come to the church later on in their life and they've gotten saved and they've gotten the experience of our church. How many times have we heard people say, man, my parents growing up told me church people were weird? My dad, my mom, man, I never even tried it because I always thought church people were weird. I always were told, church people are hypocrites. Right?
Steve Alessi: Mhm.
Mary Alessi: We've been indoctrinating each other since the beginning of time based on our opinions. Right. Why is this opinion hate? Yeah, that wasn't hate. That was their opinion. They had a right to it, and they were wrong. Later on in life, these people come, they go to church, they love church. It's not at all what they were told growing up. Right? Or they were at the Catholic Church and they were told, other churches are bad. Don't go to any other church but the Catholic Church. And then they tried it and they went, well, that was wrong. Why is that not considered hate? But if we say, as believers, we don't believe this lifestyle is healthy and good for you, it's labeled hate. There's a reason that it's labeled hate. It's because there is a, um, mission that people don't necessarily see it until it's too late. There's an agenda to push this on our world because it will get worse. It will not get better. It will get worse. And anytime we go from hearing, okay, drag queens, transgender men, transgender women, we've had that for years. No one's ever said a word. But now the fight has become drag Queen Kids shows.
Steve Alessi: Yeah.
Mary Alessi: Okay. Now the battle has begun. Stay away from the kids. The very fact that you are bringing kids into this conversation at all from any point of view, is showing us it better. Wake us up and show us that the agenda on the other side of this is about ageism. Um, parents need to know that, okay, I'm a product. People know my story. All right? We talk about, um I don't know if we're overtime. We're probably overtime.
Steve Alessi: We are, but keep going.
Mary Alessi: So this is the part we really need to be discerning and wise and wake up. Because the very near future is and there's a term for it. It's called minor sex attraction. It's already out there. It's there. Okay? You can look it up. There's a documentary right now all about Norway, and it's very long and involved, and it's the Norwegian government and how they have come into the home, and they can take a child out of the home just because the mom left a spider web. I'm not exaggerating. You can look at the documentary. The BBC is all over it right now because the head of this child agency, who was considered the child expert, was found with almost innumerable amounts of child pornography on his website. Now he's gone to jail. But this was the part that made me shudder. The men that were defending him said, you can be into child pornography and not be a pedophile.
Steve Alessi: Wow.
Mary Alessi: That is a belief right now from psychologists in America, too. You can be attracted to minors. You can be attracted to people 30 years older than you. Martha Stewart. Okay. But something is coming, and it's coming faster and more furious. If you think the Drag Queen Kids show was all there was, wake up. It is not. It is out there. And right now, they're testing the water to see how we're responding to these Drag Queen Kids shows. Um, they're just waiting to see how we respond. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, although I do like conspiracies. But UFOs, I'm telling you guys, this isn't conspiracy. And I'm not even saying this is a discerning thing as a Christian, it's for real. They are redefining the language in our textbooks, in our psychological books that are for counseling. Um, I can't even say the words psychiatrists. So there is a belief system, Steve, that you can be addicted to child porn, but you are not a pedophile. In what world?
Steve Alessi: Yeah, it's disgusting.
Mary Alessi: So this is why parents need to say, no more. No more. This far, no further. Don't bury your head in the sand. It's coming. No, it's here.
Steve Alessi: It's here. Well, this is why Mary is so good in these environments. I always tell her she can say things in a way that, um, I can't. And I so appreciate that. So thanks for putting yourself out there today. I'm sure we're going to get a little hate on this, and that's fine. We'll just turn off the comments. No big deal. But, uh, this is where we stand. This is who we are. This is why we believe we're here for such a time as this. Uh, we know today's podcast has been a blessing to you, so make sure you turn around, share it with as many people as you can, because we've got to get the word out. We don't have to be proud of Pride Month.
Mary Alessi: That's right.
Steve Alessi: Thanks for joining us today.
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